tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578322515370564452.post2442042957605829465..comments2023-09-05T13:36:07.191-06:00Comments on Dinochick Blogs: Keep your head down? What would you do?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578322515370564452.post-27742794795797843522009-05-11T22:40:00.000-06:002009-05-11T22:40:00.000-06:00Good question SF! I have no idea.Good question SF! I have no idea.ReBecca Hunt-Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05531577104733601336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578322515370564452.post-82347859241075800112009-05-11T21:24:00.000-06:002009-05-11T21:24:00.000-06:00Why did the advisor allow it without at least cont...Why did the advisor allow it without at least contacting, informing, and consulting with studentA? That's where the story goes wrong in the first place, I think!Silver Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03131032620978696727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578322515370564452.post-14430596364550614652009-05-06T14:34:00.000-06:002009-05-06T14:34:00.000-06:00ReBecca,
Is this hypothetical, or has it happened...ReBecca,<br /><br />Is this hypothetical, or has it happened to you? If the latter, and if you have documentation, you should lay it out for the world to see. No-one should be allowed to get away with this kind of thing, whether it's an established professional with a giant publications list or a student.Mike Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06039663158335543317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578322515370564452.post-8191837668308338732009-05-06T07:34:00.000-06:002009-05-06T07:34:00.000-06:00My personal concern would be over the lack of ackn...My personal concern would be over the lack of acknowledgement by StudentB when he published his paper. It seems like it would not have been a big deal to just site the thesis. I mean the thesis was completed prior to StudentB's published work and StudentA had been working on the specimen exclusivley. So what would have been the big deal to mention the work done before?Jim L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08680478888594299616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578322515370564452.post-8801507034284613452009-05-05T18:53:00.000-06:002009-05-05T18:53:00.000-06:00As described, this is a definite case of "scooping...As described, this is a definite case of "scooping." If B knew that A was working on the specimen as a primary focus of a thesis project, B should never have submitted a paper with A's thesis specimen as a central focus of the manuscript. This is wrong because the paper scoops student A, and B knew that it did. The right thing for B to do would have been to contact A. . .one workable option would be for B and A to co-author something together (particularly if B had some new insights into the specimen, or something else major to add).<br /><br />As for how long I wait to publish on a specimen that someone else is working on. . .in most cases, until it's published! That is, unless I discuss it with the relevant investigator first, and get the ok. In cases of including a specimen as one data point within a larger dataset, it's usually no problem.<br /><br />Of course, there are also the annoying cases of people sitting on specimens for decades (and refusing access), or graduate students disappearing before publishing, or any number of other situations. In this case, I would consider it best to make all reasonable efforts to contact the relevant people before doing anything.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16171447306687358664noreply@blogger.com